| Course | ACCT 404 Assurance and Attestation (ACCT404) |
|---|---|
| Module/Week | 4 |
| Assignment | Group Discussion Board Forum 2 Replies |
| Paper type | Two discussion replies |
| Length | about 473 words (thread and replies). Course guide: two replies to classmates' Forum 2 threads from Module/Week 3, each running 200 words or more |
| Format | APA 7 citations and reference list |
| Points | 50 |
| School | Liberty University Online |
| Program | BS in Accounting |
| Where it sits | Module/Week 4 in Liberty's published ACCT 404 course guide; current sections can differ |
| Updated | October 2026 |
Free sample paper for ACCT 404 Week 4
Group Discussion Board Forum 2 Replies: Responding on Materiality
ACCT 404 Assurance and Attestation, Group Discussion Board Forum 2 Replies
Thread by [Student Name]
The classmates and their clients are composites; the textbook and the peer-reviewed research cited are real.
Reply to Jacob
Jacob, your thread set materiality for a $40 million distributor at 5% of its $600,000 pretax income, giving $30,000. Your arithmetic is right, but I think the benchmark makes the audit harder without making it better. A threshold of $30,000 for a company with $40 million of revenue means the team would accumulate and evaluate differences that no banker or owner would ever notice, and next year, if income rose to $3 million, materiality would jump fivefold even though the business had barely changed. According to Eilifsen and Messier (2015), the large firms' guidance allows a different benchmark when pretax income is not a stable measure of performance, such as revenue, total assets or an average of several years' income. For your client, 0.5% of revenue would give $200,000, or a three-year average of pretax income might give a figure in the same range. Louwers et al. (2018) emphasize that materiality reflects what users of the statements care about, and for a breakeven distributor the bank is probably watching revenue, margins and working capital more than this year's thin profit. I would keep your qualitative analysis, which was the strongest part of the thread, and change only the base. That combination would let the team focus its effort on the accounts that could actually change a lender's decision. It would also make the threshold more comparable from year to year, which helps the bank read the audit consistently.
Reply to Natalie
Natalie, you concluded that a $30,000 inventory pricing error was immaterial because it fell well below your $500,000 threshold, and quantitatively that is correct. I would ask one more question: why did the error happen? Suppose it occurred because a new cost accountant updated standard costs without anyone reviewing the changes. Then the error is a symptom of a missing review control, and this week's chapter on internal control explains that the auditor must evaluate the deficiency itself, including how large a misstatement it could have allowed, not just the misstatement that happened to occur. If the same unreviewed process covers all $12 million of inventory, the potential misstatement is far larger than $30,000. Doyle et al. (2007) found that material weaknesses in internal control were more likely at companies that were smaller, younger, financially weaker, more complex, growing quickly or restructuring. Your client, which you described as a fast-growing manufacturer that recently added two product lines, fits several of those characteristics. I would recommend communicating the deficiency to management and the audit committee and increasing substantive testing of inventory pricing for the year, even though the error itself can pass as immaterial. That response costs a few extra hours now and could prevent a far larger problem next year. Louwers et al. (2018) describe this kind of response as part of linking the control evaluation to the nature, timing and extent of substantive procedures.
References
Doyle, J., Ge, W., & McVay, S. (2007). Determinants of weaknesses in internal control over financial reporting. Journal of Accounting and Economics, 44(1-2), 193-223. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jacceco.2006.10.003
Eilifsen, A., & Messier, W. F., Jr. (2015). Materiality guidance of the major public accounting firms. Auditing: A Journal of Practice & Theory, 34(2), 3-26. https://doi.org/10.2308/ajpt-50882
Louwers, T. J., Blay, A. D., Sinason, D. H., Strawser, J. R., & Thibodeau, J. C. (2018). Auditing & assurance services (7th ed.). McGraw-Hill Education.
What the ACCT 404 Week 4 instructions ask
Module/Week 4 of ACCT 404 asks each student to reply to at least one classmate's Forum 2 thread from Module/Week 3 in 200 words or more. The week's reading is chapter 6 of Louwers et al. plus Module B and a presentation, and the week's review questions and the open-book midterm share its deadline. The midterm, two and a half hours of multiple-choice questions, covers the first half of the course, so the materiality discussion in this forum doubles as review. Forum 3's thread follows in Module/Week 5. Students who post their replies early in the week leave the weekend free for the exam.
How this ACCT 404 Week 4 example is built
The first sample reply restates the classmate's computation, shows why 5% of a $600,000 pretax income produces a threshold too small to be useful for a $40 million company, and proposes an alternative benchmark drawn from the firms' guidance. The second reply accepts that a $30,000 error is below quantitative materiality and asks what caused it, tracing the error to a missing review control and showing how chapter 6's internal control evaluation would treat it. Research on the determinants of internal control weaknesses explains why the client's profile makes the concern reasonable. Both replies name the classmate's claim at the start and end with a specific recommendation. Neither reply simply corrects the classmate; each accepts what the thread got right and builds from there.
ACCT 404 Week 4 grading rubric: where the points go
ACCT 404 replies are graded on direct engagement with the classmate's thread, accurate application of the course material, a contribution the thread did not already make and the 200-word minimum. Replies in this week can earn more by connecting Forum 2's planning topic to the new internal control chapter. A citation is not required in replies, but a well-chosen peer-reviewed source in current APA format strengthens the response. Instructors also look for professional tone in disagreement: the reply should help the classmate see something new rather than simply mark the thread wrong. Replies that stay on one well-developed point usually score better than replies that touch several points lightly, and a reply that answers a question the classmate left open is especially valuable to the group.
ACCT 404 Week 4 help: mistakes that cost points
Choose a thread whose computation or reasoning you can test, and restate the classmate's figure before suggesting another. When you propose a different benchmark, give the reason in terms of what users rely on. Link to the week's new chapter where you can; an internal control angle fits most materiality discussions. Keep each reply above 200 words and end with a specific suggestion. With the midterm sharing the deadline, finish the replies first and then rework the forum's materiality figures as exam practice. Note any terms from chapter 6 that you used in a reply, since they are likely to appear on the exam as well.
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ACCT 404 Week 4 questions, answered
What are the ACCT 404 Forum 2 replies?
Worth 50 points and graded in the midterm week, they are responses to classmates' materiality threads from Module/Week 3, each needing 200 words at minimum.
Where can I find a free ACCT 404 Week 4 sample paper?
Two complete ACCT 404 Week 4 replies are on this page, one on choosing a benchmark for a breakeven client and one on the control weakness behind a small error.
What benchmark should auditors use when income is near zero?
When pretax income is small or volatile, auditors commonly use a percentage of revenue, total assets or normalized income, so that materiality is not set unrealistically low.
Can an immaterial misstatement indicate a material weakness?
Yes. A small error caused by a missing or failed control can reveal a deficiency that could have allowed a much larger misstatement, which the auditor evaluates on its own terms.
What else is due in ACCT 404 Module/Week 4?
Connect questions and the open-book midterm exam are due with the Forum 2 replies, along with chapter 6 and Module B of Louwers et al. and a presentation.
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